485Mbe4001
07-28 12:29 PM
good post with good points.
Additionally EB3 ROW will also suffer because the overflow will be allocated to EB2 first. You will see more and more countries getting retrogressed in EB3. It is not a case of being envious about EB2's, it is simply the fact that EB3's as a whole are screwed very bad and EB3 I in particular will never be current.
(On paper) This visa bulletin looks like an attempt to sow discontent among the nascent EB organizations (IV in particular) and it seems to have succeeded. EB 3 have dropped off from state chapters(I have). It exposed the worst from all the groups. 2007 VB fiasco helped many, but it also created many issues for DOL and USCIS that its payback time for us, they will go through each rule with a fine tooth comb and make sure that this will never happen again. it is my opinion that in the end we lost big time.
Sorry to read blaming debates between eb3 and eb2. Insted of blaming, it is better to take some action. Based on current practice by DOS, EB3-I will be like this for ever, unless more number opens up by any legislative changes. As per law, each EB catagories are allowed to have 40K visas. As demand for EB2 is more, (paricularly by In,Ch) one can not expect any flow from EB2 to EB3 . This is law one can not change it.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
Additionally EB3 ROW will also suffer because the overflow will be allocated to EB2 first. You will see more and more countries getting retrogressed in EB3. It is not a case of being envious about EB2's, it is simply the fact that EB3's as a whole are screwed very bad and EB3 I in particular will never be current.
(On paper) This visa bulletin looks like an attempt to sow discontent among the nascent EB organizations (IV in particular) and it seems to have succeeded. EB 3 have dropped off from state chapters(I have). It exposed the worst from all the groups. 2007 VB fiasco helped many, but it also created many issues for DOL and USCIS that its payback time for us, they will go through each rule with a fine tooth comb and make sure that this will never happen again. it is my opinion that in the end we lost big time.
Sorry to read blaming debates between eb3 and eb2. Insted of blaming, it is better to take some action. Based on current practice by DOS, EB3-I will be like this for ever, unless more number opens up by any legislative changes. As per law, each EB catagories are allowed to have 40K visas. As demand for EB2 is more, (paricularly by In,Ch) one can not expect any flow from EB2 to EB3 . This is law one can not change it.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
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arnet
05-23 03:31 PM
I heard in yesterday radio talk show (with PA congressman) that a new group formed by house representatives (congressmen) called "representatives for legal immigration" (exact name not known because they said they are constructing a new website too), looks like, they oppose the illegal and support legal immigration. nt sure whether they will be of any help atleast during STRIVE bill debate to bring some relief to EB.
pd2001_12
09-10 11:22 AM
or maybe the official webside accidently copies the India Other workers date to EB3 ;-) . In my 9th grade a real cool dude who sat next to me would say "Man lives in hope and dies in despair"
I hope this is true. I am getting tired of waiting for visa bulletins.
Anyone close to my priority date out there?
I hope this is true. I am getting tired of waiting for visa bulletins.
Anyone close to my priority date out there?
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krishnam70
07-05 11:26 AM
Sorry - I had no idea what this thread was about.
Apologize, did not realize that fact. Can the thread owner please update the thread title and add some description.
Apologize, did not realize that fact. Can the thread owner please update the thread title and add some description.
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rayoflight
05-20 11:14 AM
I just called and spoke with the CR. She told me that she would put me in the queue and to expect the appointment anywhere between 6-8 weeks but nothing happenned on the LUD side online.
Do I have to call back tommorow again?
Do I have to call back tommorow again?
mirage
03-09 02:38 PM
Guys everybody has a story, in my area Labors were getting cleared in less than 1 month in mid of 2003. When my attorney filed my labor and we didn�t hear on it for 3 months, my Attorney called up the local labor dept. they told him that the person who used to do foreign labor certs met with an accident and is on extended leave, It took 13 months for the local office, by that time BECs were born, retrogression�..
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desi3933
07-08 01:20 PM
Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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10-08 11:05 PM
I do not understand why people spend their energy in coming up with some lame ideas. Just because you suffer does not mean that your fellows have to suffer, what is the point of being a sane individual with that kind of thought process.
There are people who come here on all kinds of visas F1, H1, L1 and like this country and stay back and need a green card for convenience. Students who came here want priority over people who came on H1B. It makes sense from their point of view.
Similarly people on H1B who got stuck in several stages and had to change the company have their own point of view.
How bout having a lame rule saying that GC for people with I.Q of 140 and above?
(or)
How bout having a lame rule like if you have a family you will be penalized by putting you at the end of the line for GC?
The list can go endless..
Worry less about who is cutting the line and getting ahead and please concentrate and put your energy and come up with good ideas and showing what we are really capable of..
There are people who come here on all kinds of visas F1, H1, L1 and like this country and stay back and need a green card for convenience. Students who came here want priority over people who came on H1B. It makes sense from their point of view.
Similarly people on H1B who got stuck in several stages and had to change the company have their own point of view.
How bout having a lame rule saying that GC for people with I.Q of 140 and above?
(or)
How bout having a lame rule like if you have a family you will be penalized by putting you at the end of the line for GC?
The list can go endless..
Worry less about who is cutting the line and getting ahead and please concentrate and put your energy and come up with good ideas and showing what we are really capable of..
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tonyHK12
02-18 02:12 PM
I will not be able to attend the effort, so i just donated $100. Paypal transaction : 5G8297179W5987836
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qplearn
12-10 03:38 PM
There are two posts from 'Ticked Off' at this link:
http://www.steinreport.com/archives/009849.html
Scary comments. Also saddening.
http://www.steinreport.com/archives/009849.html
Scary comments. Also saddening.
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gjoe
12-17 10:16 AM
I opened a SR for non receipt of my FP notice, on 30Oct2007. I got a reply from USCIS exactly after 45 days ( very prompt) notifying me that " my FP has not yet expired or my FP is not yet cleared". Certainly this looks like a canned reply from USCIS which was sent even without looking at my file. I guess they should be more transparent in their process than just sending plain lies.
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aachoo
05-09 11:22 PM
A suggestion about the contents of these emails/letters:
Why do we insist on proposing the solution to our problems? One person wants to remove country limits, another wants 5 year EADs, yet another wants to file 485 regardless of priority dates.
I see 2 problems with this:
1- The external world doesn't care or understand. Do you think the average CNN viewer understands what retrogression or priority dates are? For that matter does anyone in the White House?
2- This divides us by EB category, country, pre/post July '07, EB3 to EB2 porter etc.
In your letters please focus on the problem. If invited to the table we can propose solutions, but now is the time to highlight the problems and the potential impact it has on the US economy, our families, and communities.
Examples:
Impact on US economy:
- I have significant buying power, however I am unable to make any substantial longer term financial decisions due to immigration uncertainties. I may be asked to leave the country on a moment's notice. If there was some stability, I may be looking to invest in a home or a new business
Impact on our families:
- My spouse cannot work. She is qualified and capable. Yet due to the vagaries of the immigration system, she cannot pursue full time employment without significant additional paperwork
Impact on the communities:
- Most of us hold strong political and social views. The current system makes it untenable and in some cases illegal (like donating to political parties) to participate in the democratic process. In the grand machine that is the American democratic system, we are probably the only group of people that are taxed and yet have no representation whatsoever.
Maybe these points are not strong enough. But if they are not, then it is not worth anyone's time to pay any attention. Find the legal immigrant population's "we do the jobs Americans will not do" slogan!
-a
Why do we insist on proposing the solution to our problems? One person wants to remove country limits, another wants 5 year EADs, yet another wants to file 485 regardless of priority dates.
I see 2 problems with this:
1- The external world doesn't care or understand. Do you think the average CNN viewer understands what retrogression or priority dates are? For that matter does anyone in the White House?
2- This divides us by EB category, country, pre/post July '07, EB3 to EB2 porter etc.
In your letters please focus on the problem. If invited to the table we can propose solutions, but now is the time to highlight the problems and the potential impact it has on the US economy, our families, and communities.
Examples:
Impact on US economy:
- I have significant buying power, however I am unable to make any substantial longer term financial decisions due to immigration uncertainties. I may be asked to leave the country on a moment's notice. If there was some stability, I may be looking to invest in a home or a new business
Impact on our families:
- My spouse cannot work. She is qualified and capable. Yet due to the vagaries of the immigration system, she cannot pursue full time employment without significant additional paperwork
Impact on the communities:
- Most of us hold strong political and social views. The current system makes it untenable and in some cases illegal (like donating to political parties) to participate in the democratic process. In the grand machine that is the American democratic system, we are probably the only group of people that are taxed and yet have no representation whatsoever.
Maybe these points are not strong enough. But if they are not, then it is not worth anyone's time to pay any attention. Find the legal immigrant population's "we do the jobs Americans will not do" slogan!
-a
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capriol
09-13 03:10 PM
Create a new thread for TSC.
Sanjeev:
I don't know how to create a new thread. Will you please tell me how to do do? Thanks a lot.
Sanjeev:
I don't know how to create a new thread. Will you please tell me how to do do? Thanks a lot.
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kondur_007
08-18 02:48 PM
Everybody has been waiting for his/her green card and congratulations to all those who has got their GC. On the other hand it is really unfair and to some extent unethical on the part of USICS not follow a fair system.
There are several people in 2004, 2005 who have been paitently waiting for their turn only to see that people behind them getting approved.
Several of us have writtent to Ombudsman, Director but of no avail.
Not sure what else can be done? Any Idea? Do we have any liaison with AILA who can take up this matter.
I can understand the frustration here. The problem is, USCIS has been doing this for several years and everyone knows this.
Even Ombudsman mention this in his report! So I dont think we can write much of letters about this...it is a well known and acknowledged fact!
Now what is the solution? The problem is USCIS claims that they do not have enough resouces to implement FIFO. Or may be they do not have a system to utilize available resources to do so.
This is not likely to change in next couple of months. So with all due respect, everyone with current PD but still waiting for GC will just have to wait and hope for the best. I wish my good luck to all. The best we can expect from USCIS at this point is to use all the visa numbers and not to waste any.
On a long run, this does need to change. It will take several months or years to change and it is worthwhile to attempt our efforts in that direction. Or suggest something in that line to include in upcoming CIR next year.
any thoughts?
There are several people in 2004, 2005 who have been paitently waiting for their turn only to see that people behind them getting approved.
Several of us have writtent to Ombudsman, Director but of no avail.
Not sure what else can be done? Any Idea? Do we have any liaison with AILA who can take up this matter.
I can understand the frustration here. The problem is, USCIS has been doing this for several years and everyone knows this.
Even Ombudsman mention this in his report! So I dont think we can write much of letters about this...it is a well known and acknowledged fact!
Now what is the solution? The problem is USCIS claims that they do not have enough resouces to implement FIFO. Or may be they do not have a system to utilize available resources to do so.
This is not likely to change in next couple of months. So with all due respect, everyone with current PD but still waiting for GC will just have to wait and hope for the best. I wish my good luck to all. The best we can expect from USCIS at this point is to use all the visa numbers and not to waste any.
On a long run, this does need to change. It will take several months or years to change and it is worthwhile to attempt our efforts in that direction. Or suggest something in that line to include in upcoming CIR next year.
any thoughts?
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zoooom
07-20 11:41 AM
Friend,
I have contributed through the link on home page.
Thanks,
Shana04
PLease do not contribute towards this fund as yet..we havent decided a mode of payment yet. We are just counting currently. We will let you guys know about the mode of payment on Monday.
I have contributed through the link on home page.
Thanks,
Shana04
PLease do not contribute towards this fund as yet..we havent decided a mode of payment yet. We are just counting currently. We will let you guys know about the mode of payment on Monday.
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tonyHK12
02-18 02:12 PM
I will not be able to attend the effort, so i just donated $100. Paypal transaction : 5G8297179W5987836
thanks kumar_459. Just one for today so far.
thanks kumar_459. Just one for today so far.
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leoindiano
12-26 10:40 AM
I received FP notices for myself and spouse on Saturday, Dec 22 for FP at the Charlotte office on Jan 11.
- gchopes.
GCHOPES,
My case transferred from TSC to VSC to TSC, I am from charlotte too. Did you had to do anything to get FP? My application reached USCIS on august 3rd. We got all except FP.
- gchopes.
GCHOPES,
My case transferred from TSC to VSC to TSC, I am from charlotte too. Did you had to do anything to get FP? My application reached USCIS on august 3rd. We got all except FP.
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lazycis
11-30 09:03 PM
My prayers are with you, man. Do not lose hope and fight for your life! You condition fits a reason for expedite processing. Fax expedited request to the service center where your I-485s are pending. Attach supporting documents. Call the USCIS customer service, they will tell you all the details, including fax number for this.
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Lasantha
07-02 09:32 AM
will they throw it out because it reached in July? Oh well, just have to wait and see...
I don't think so. I see lots of posts on this thread where the packages were actually accepted by NSC today. So you should be good. :D
I don't think so. I see lots of posts on this thread where the packages were actually accepted by NSC today. So you should be good. :D
Santosh_gc
06-26 03:07 PM
stuck labor:
I have an argument against what you said about my comment on corruption. There is a logicall fallacy in your rebuttal to my statements.
But my reply wont contribute in any way to IVs core goals and will create a distraction. So I am going to refrain from posting anything regarding that and the ongoing argument about racism.
Santosh
I have an argument against what you said about my comment on corruption. There is a logicall fallacy in your rebuttal to my statements.
But my reply wont contribute in any way to IVs core goals and will create a distraction. So I am going to refrain from posting anything regarding that and the ongoing argument about racism.
Santosh
vkjanam
11-17 05:14 PM
Done.
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